house to aide to the president to senior advisor at the white house to writing a best-selling book to abc news and now you're one of thtop pple there. >> i'm actually flashing back at this moment to one of the first times i was on your show. it was probably -- >> i remember. in washington. >> in washington. it was early in the clinton years with an extended conversation. i would have never guessed i would have been there at that moment. what was that, 18 years ago? and it's been a lifetime since. no, i have never had a five-year plan or 10-ar pn. i have always been intereste in public affairs, in journalism. i did in high school and college. in politics, in government, and i have been lucky to have a series of jobs where i get to draw onallof that, and now on gmi can draw more today. >> if you were in the white house today, what do you think the president expects to happen? what can he make happen? >> know what they hope will happen. i think what they hope will happen now is that the big deal -- you're talking about the debt limits? >> we can talk about afghanistan later. >> life, whateve